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Author Removal ||| Author Applications

Hai,

It is with regret that I have to announce Bmf is being removed from the site.

I have received a bombardment of calls for this for a number of weeks now, and this site was set up to appease the viewer. If the viewers are not happy, then this site is not working effectively.

In order to replace him, I will be holding a Mini-Author application.

If you would like to become an author on the site, please comment on this post with the following form:

WordPress Name:
Penguin Name:
Wordpress Email:
Write a reasonably large piece with the title “Noobs – A help or hinderance?”:

Applications will close Saturday the 31st.

That is all.

~Iasgae56

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CP Armies vs Disney?// Falling Legends

CP ARMIES VS DISNEY ?

If you’ve been a club penguin army veteran you would know Club Penguin was better for armies before Disney took over it. For example the Dojo where many Club Penguin Army battles were battled was spoiled by Card Jitsu. And army’s cant recruit with all the filters and rumors say armies get kicked of the server or banned by moderators if they recruit on club penguin. Also many penguins blame Disney for “membership”…

Thats One point of view, and I have seen many times before people post almost the exact thing and sometimes hold protests ! But hang on what has Disney done for Club Penguin. Nothing is perfect and although Disney has brought us some downs what has it done FOR us.

Disney may not help armies but has brought some great things , for example we now have the EPF and many many mini – games ! Sure card – may have cluttered the dojo a little but Card Jitsu is a great mini – game !

Disney are simply bringing more entertainment (that may get in the way of armies) and making club penguin safer for little kids. So we should move on and look for the benefits out of this.

Those are both sides of the argument , as for MY opinion I support the 2nd argument.

FALLING LEGENDS

I would also like to discuss some of armies that are falling that used to be some of the biggest armies in club penguin history !

UMA :  Foundered by the famous Pink Mafia the person who introduced Snowball Fights to club penguin armies. UMA I think is the biggest fall in Club Penguin Army History right down from 2nd or 3rd right down to 10th or even Medium. How did they fall : They were always slowly falling but their biggest drop was after a rebellion (now known as the RPF) but I will always remember them and their tremendous size just as all Club Penguin Army members should.

RPF : Funnily enough I was just talking about them. They experienced many leadership problems and eventually split in two ! With two RPF’s sites and two armies their size split in half. Many people retired in the confusion and although it is trying to be revived it remains a medium.

There are also many other armies who fell but not at the extent the above did. For example the BB – Black Bandits , RFW – Roman Fire Warriors etc.

I also apolgise for my inactivenss due to many events (exams , trips etc.) but Im back !

-LadTom2

Battle for Brumby Results

Hai,

Today, 24th of June, Nachos, along with their allies (which now include Golden Troops, whom sided with the confederation after the leaders allowed their soldiers to chose who to side with in this post HERE, but Golden Troops did not participate in this particular invasion, but have shown their support for the Confederation for the battle of Mammoth)

Background:

In the Battle announcement post HERE, by Nacho Co-Leader Pie1530, he said the reason for their declaration of invasion is as follows:

Due to the fact that we have done nothing other then defend our servers from raids, we’re going to invade Brumby tomorrow.

He also added a little bit of the Nacho’s history on this server:

Well, to me it is important because it proved the turning point for the Nachos in January of 2009, when we were at war with FGR.

If you would like to read a more detailed background of the war on a whole, please take a look at the “Background” section in my Mammoth post HERE. This is the first battle in this war, which some have deemed to be/could be a world war.

In this battle, the participating armies are:

Nachos and Allies:

Nachos

Ice Warriors

Team Gold

Other Small Armies

ACP and Allies:

Army of Club Penguin

Doritos of Club Penguin

Other Small Armies

As I have said before, Golden Troops did not participate in this battle, but they will be participating in the invasion on Mammoth.

Pre-Battle Build Up:

This battle is under the same Pre-Battle circumstances as the Mammoth war, so if you want to read about that, once again I redirect you to my other post HERE.

The Battle:

Both ACP and Nachos made follow up posts with the results of the battle. I have taken the pictures below from the ACP post HERE and the Nacho Post HERE.

Pictures from ACP site where size is distinguishable:

ACP AND ALLIES SIZE: 50

Pictures from the Nachos site where size is distinguishable:

NACHO AND ALLIES SIZE: 25+

3 Random Pictures from the ACP site:


3 Random Pictures from the Nachos site:


Chat size Pictures:

10 minuites after start of battle:

The number of users on the chats 10 minuites after the battle officially started. ACP maintained 2 chat boxes throughout the battle (see more below)

1 hour after start of battle:

The number of users on the chats one hour after the start of the battle.

Other:

An hour after the start of the battle, ACP has maintained the two chat rooms that it had since the start of the battle.

My Opinion:

In considering my opinion I have to consider numerous factors. ****Note: When I use the term “Nacho’s” or “ACP” I am using it as a shortcut to saying the Nacho or ACP side of the battle, quicker than saying ACP and Allies etc. every time.****

Firstly, ACP was the defending army. Therefore, to lose the server, it would require for them to be beaten without doubt. Without this clearly distinguishable margin of defeat, or victory in Nacho’s case, there is therefore no right to award the server being defended to the attacking army. In this instance, I believe Nacho’s were, without using the word weaker, not stronger than ACP were, and henceforth, the server was not conquered. As a result of this, the Nachos (evidently) did not succeed in their aim.

Secondly, ACP showed a conquering and imposing force, as did the Nachos side, yet full and proper battling was nigh on impossible due to the sheer size of the two sides. This is a frequent problem when major armies/alliances meet, and can lead to a spoilt war, where no clear winner is evident. On these occasions, due to the lack of warfare fighting, a greater focus is put on size than there would be otherwise. If this battle were to be adjudged wholly 100% on size, ACP would probably prevail, and such is the Nachos long lasting and well served reliance on tactics. As I have said, this favours against them when major armies meet, but something that cannot be avoided.

Also, there was the issue that I said could be a problem before the battle (and for the Mammoth battle) that was raised by Tanman of Nachos in their post. Tanman said:

This was a kind of unfair battle due to Brumby being nearly always full or laggy due to all the people. ACP logged on like an hour before battle so they were able to get all their troops in before people started logging into Brumby. When Nachos NW IW and TG tried logging in only the member troops were able to get in. ACP would not agree to go to a less populated server but still be fighting for Brumby so we didnt have a choice and just chose to deal with it. We had a good turnout for ONLY member troops though we averaged 25 the whole time. I feel if we would have had our nons we could have had 40.

In response to which, former ACP Leader Oagalthorp said in a comment:

We had a nearly all-members fighting force today aswell. Notice how we only had 50-60 rather than 80-90. Also, why would we move it to a smaller server? The point was to invade Brumby, not have a head-to-head face off.

As you can see, there was clear disagreement as to whether the battle was just and fair, with both sides claiming they were victims of this. Other than this, for the reasons I have stated above, I believe the victor of this battle, or at the very least the army that is keeping Brumby is:

The Army of Club Penguin


Comment with YOUR opinion!

~ιaѕgaє56

Admitting Defeat? A look into WWIII

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Table of Contents:

  1. Overview
  2. Interviews
  3. Poll

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1. OVERVIEW
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For years, admitting defeat has been a constant struggle among armies. Who decides who won? How does one decide who won? Well, I won’t be getting into those questiosn here. Instead, I will present the other side of the metaphoric coin: Should armies admit defeat at all?

I’ll be using Club Penguin WWIII as a basis for my examples. Those of us who remember WWIII remember it fondly as the greatest war Club Penguin armies have ever waged. It raged from late 2006 until June 25th, 2007, at the Battle of Wool Socks. But what exactly set this war apart from other wars, and even other World Wars? Besides the vast scale in which it was fought, the main component of the war’s “success” was the lack of contact between soldiers. Leaders of the opposing forces rarely had any contact beyond arguments, and–since Xat chats had not yet been widely used–ACP soldier never had the opportunity to talk to UMA soldiers face-to-face.

Why did no contact between armies enhance the lifespan of WWIII? Because when a you fight a friend, you are more likely to admit defeat or accept victory humble, then go back to being allies. On the other hand, when you fight a stranger you are more likely to fight until one of the armies is completely destroyed. War at its finest. And up until the summer of 2007, neither the  ACP and RPF nor the UMA would ever admit defeat ( excluding the Battle of Mammoth [click for video], where the ACP clearly lost ) at any battle, no matter who should have won by today’s standards.

That’s right, not admitting defeat helped prolong a war for SEVEN MONTHS. Isn’t that the kind of war we strive for today? At the Battle of Breeze [click for video] the ACP, RPF, and CPAF claimed to have defeated (ACP post, RPF Post) the UMA. However, the UMA claimed to have won aswell. Did this affect anyone? Not really. The ensuing arguments just set the stage for the next monumental battle, and so on.

Not until the Battle of Wool Socks [click for post] did the war finally end. Oagalthorp ( 3rd person ftw! ) talked with the new UMA leader, Mpenguin123, and because of this friendship the war ended with an ACP-UMA alliance. Had the two not become friends, the war might have raged on for another 2 or 3 months until the UMA war completely destroyed.

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2. INTERVIEWS
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Interview with Fort57, former ACP leader & WWIII veteran . . .

Oagal: How do you feel about armies admitting defeat? Should the leaders take the high road and admit when they lose–risking a loss of soldiers and an end to the war–or claim to win the battle so as to continue the war and keep up troop morale?

Fort57: I think that if you know you’ve lost you should admit defeat, plus I hate it when the other side doesn’t admit defeat when they lose.

Oagal: Well put. But what about in WWIII, when admitting defeat meant the possibility of losing the entire war?

Fort57: I suppose that’s a different circumstance. Besides, most of the battles were very close, and alliances played a big factor in the whole war.

Oagal: True, true. When you led the ACP, how did you decide whether to admit defeat or claim victory after a battle?

Fort57:  The only time I could ever admit defeat in a battle is if we are completely outnumbered by the other side, and if everyone has to leave and can’t be there to continue the war.

Oagal: Good call. Well, thank you for your time. Any final statements?

Fort57: Nope!

Oagal: xD

Interview with Hollow (Shadow 2447), former Nacho leader and WWIII veteran . . .

Oagal: How do you feel about armies admitting defeat? Should the leaders take the high road and admit when they lose–risking a loss of soldiers and an end to the war–or claim to win the battle so as to continue the war and keep up troop morale?

Hollow:  Winning is different in everybody’s eyes. Over the course of the past year I’ve felt that the winning army is obviously the more aggressive army. It’s not about exact numbers, but how big your numbers look and how they’re used. Battles these days are just drills that can be ran over and over.

Oagal: Interesting perspective. What about in WWIII, when admitting defeat meant the possibility of losing the entire war?

Hollow: Back in WWIII it was different. Of course we didn’t want to end a war so we did our best to win every battle, whether it be unscheduled or scheduled. The unscheduled battles obviously became as big of a role as the scheduled ones did as a matter of recruits came.

Oagal: Agreed. When you led the Nachos, how did you decide whether to admit defeat or claim victory after a battle?

Hollow: The Nachos were never a gigantic with 40+ at every big battle back then. We had some great unscheduled battle runs though. We were never really the army for the official-show-up-at-a-certain-time gig. Winning in my opinion was accomplishing the mission we set out to do. If it was a raid on Mammoth and we did a good job it was a win, but if we failed to protect a server it was a loss.

Oagal: I see, I see. Well thank you for your time. Any final statements?

Hollow: The methods used to judge a battle are over-interpreted decision methods from the past.

Interview with Boomer 20, former ACP leader and WWIII veteran . . .

Oagal: How do you feel about armies admitting defeat? Should the leaders take the high road and admit when they lose–risking a loss of soldiers and an end to the war–or claim to win the battle so as to continue the war and keep up troop morale?

Boomer 20: I feel it’s important for army leaders to admit defeat when their army loses, because if no one did this, it would be complete chaos and no one would want to go to war in the first place knowing they would have to deal with that. If you do have to admit defeat, I think it is important to use it as motivation with your soldiers in order to encourage them to work even harder.  You can’t become discouraged if you are defeated one time, train harder and come back stronger the next time.

Oagal: Good point–the ACP used this strategy after their loss at the Battle of Mammoth and more recently the loss to the IW in that practice battle a few weeks ago. But what about in WWIII, when admitting defeat meant the possibility of losing the entire war?

Boomer 20: I think in the case of World Wars it becomes a little more complicated.  You can admit defeat in the battle, but you will not have lost the war (necessarily).  I think it’s important that you don’t surrender however, just keep fighting until you gain the upper hand and hopefully win the war.  I think the only time admitting defeat in a World War would be the better option is if staying in the war and being annihilated on a daily basis is going to serious damage to the army, and you need to surrender in order to rebuild and/or prevent collapse.

Oagal: I see where you’re coming from. When you led the ACP, how did you decide whether to admit defeat or claim victory after a battle?

Boomer 20: The easiest way is to talk to the other leader(s), and if they agree that you won, then obviously you say you won. If both of you disagree, then I would go back to the pictures that were hopefully taken (I always made sure to have plenty as evidence to support my case).  I looked at size first (I’m not sure if ACP was ever truly outnumbered while I was leader), then at our ability to attack the opponent (if our charges were more effective than theirs, etc.).  I would only admit defeat if we were truly outnumbered/outmaneuvered by the opponent.  I think the only times we were defeated or were close to being defeated were during the unscheduled battles of the ACP/Nachos war in April 2009, which ended in a tie/cease fire.

Oagal: Great insight. Thanks for your time, it’s been great to catch up. Do you have any final statements?

Boomer 20: Thank you for this opportunity, I’m looking forward to the post!

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Here’s a quick poll where I will ask you your opinion: If a battle is close, should the disadvantaged army admit defeat or claim victory to continue the war?

If a battle is close, should the leader of the disdvantaged side admit defeat or claim victory?
 Admit defeat: It leads to less arguments and ends wars. 
 Claim victory: It helps troop morale and might continue a really good war. 
 Undecided.

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Comment with your opinion!

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Welp, I hope you enjoyed reading my first post! I look forward to continuing to help you all better understand the history of CP armies.

~ Oagalthorp
Thanks for reading,
March on!

Army Rivalries||Y.O.P.

Hi guys, Folay here again, and I want top talk about army rivalries. But before I talk about rivalries I want to tell you the true meaning of a rival, the free dictonary says a rival is: 1. One who attempts to equal or surpass another, or who pursues the same object as another; a competitor.2. One that equals or almost equals another in a particular respect. I believe a rival is someone who you compete with, a friend, that has someting you want, so you try to get better, etc. Kind of like jealously. He has it, you want to be better. A rivalry consits of determanition, jealousy, and sometimes friendship, as each person pushes to be better. The army rivalries are the same way. For example (*NOTE* These 2 armies were made up) The Green Army (Not ACP) and the Pink Army have a rivalry. The Pink Army is #1, and the Green Army is #2, and both armies want #1. This is a rivalry in my opinion. I went around and asked some troops from different armies what a rivalry was to them:

Question: What is a rivalry?

ACP

Speeder109-2 people that always compete with eachother.

вυ¢кℓєувєaηѕ-A rivalry is basically 2 people always trying to be better than eachother, sometimes not your enemy, they can be your friend.

§a¡уåмaη•X¢(Also GT leader)- A Rivalry is someone you go aganist with, which can be good or bad. You try to suprass him/her and be better.

м¢нaρρу- When 2 people have a competition between eachother/both have a goal to get to.

DCP

Angel- A rivalry is when 2 people are on different sides, and they hate each other.

Nachos

ItzAl3x-Rivalry is a competive competition between things, for example, and arch-rival is like someone that has been trying to be better than you, like Mr. Krabs and Planton in spongebob, they have been rivals for a long time.

Well, I want to know your opinion. What do you think a Rivalry is. Leave a comment telling me your opinion,

~Folay

Battle for Mammoth: Preview

Hai,

Just a disclaimer, I haven’t been here for agesssss so I sorta don’t know everything, but I will post on what I know. :D

Background:

The Nachos, coming off the back of a recent war with GT, has initiated a battle with ACP for Mammoth. This has to be one of the most contraversial and sought after servers in all of Club Penguin. You can read history, debate, and all the posts you want, but the ownership of the server will be decided on this battle.

Nacho Co-Leader, Pie1530, has made the battle post, which can be viewed HERE, and laid down the mantle for ACP to pick up. He states that Nacho’s and her allies shall be known as the “Confederation of Mammoth” and consists of the following armies:

  • Nachos
  • Ice Warriors
  • Team Gold
  • Golden Troops – UNDECIDED
  • Night Warriors
  • Doritos of Club Penguin

There has been some debate of this though, as ACP seem to believe in their post, which can be viewed HERE, that DCP have made the choice to side with ACP. If this is true, the sides would be:

The Confederation:

  • Nachos
  • Ice Warriors
  • Team Gold
  • Golden Troops – UNDECIDED
  • Night Warriors

ACP and Allies:

  • Army of Club Penguin
  • Doritos of Club Penguin
  • Golden Troops – UNDECIDED

On the other hand, GT have still not decided (at the time of writing) which side they will fight on. There was a post released by Saiyaman, GT Leader, in which the GT soldiers would vote who to side with. The post can be viewed HERE. It includes both the pro’s and con’s of joining either side in the war, and the outcome is currently undecided.

Head to Head History:

The history between these two armies has been patchy to say the least. Arguably, ACP has had the better of the luck between the two, as in the recent war in March which also involved Blue Alliance and Red Alliance, ACP was generally thought to have the size advantage when they were against Nachos on their own. There was though a great deal of controversy surrounding the use of joke bombs. This is what the Nacho’s used to claim victory in several of the battles due to their numerical disadvantage. The outcome of this war was probably victory ACP, but this was not really accepted on Nacho’s behalf, and the result just plunged into oblivion.

As for more recently, there hasn’t been many battles between ACP and Nachos. ACP has had a recent PB against GT, in which it showed and impressive size, reportedly around 80+ between all rooms, and 20+ for GT.

Pre-Battle Assesment (Of Main Armies involved):

Army of Club Penguin:

Haven’t had any large surge of activity recently, but did beat both GT and Nachos in Practice Battles, and have had good showings and unscheduled events. More than 50 people is the minimum expected from many ACP soldiers, but whether that will be enough against the force of the Confederation remains to be seen.

Nachos of Club Penguin:

The Nachos are coming into this war off the back of a war with GT. Ironically, the same people they are now siding with in this assault on Mammoth. Showed reasonable numbers, which rarely exceeded 30. Alone, they would struggle to defeat ACP, but along with the other armies in the Mammoth Confederation, do stand a good chance of overhauling ACP’s rule on Mammoth.

Ice Warriors:

Have been largely inactive on Club Penguin in recent times, their last significant battle of any sort their Practice Battle with GT. This was unfortunately cut short due to banning by CP mods. They showed a good size, but whether they still have this large following will be shown at the battle.

Golden Troops:

Have rather strangely decided to side with Nachos, despite being in a war with them for the days leading up to the declaration of the invasion of Mammoth. Were matched in size byNachos, with no clear winner prevailing. Similiarly to Nachos, would most likely not defeat ACP alone, but the powers of the Confederation combined will almost certainly prove to much for ACP.

Pre-Battle Build up:

  • Major problems arising due to the fact Mammoth is almost constantly full. Getting all armies in with full representation will require something of a miracle.
  • Even if all armies are capable of getting into Mammoth, once in they will face the same problem that is faced on any server, but enhanced by Mammoth’s popularity. Getting armies in the same rooms. At some times ACP can fill a whole room on its own, no matter fighting other armies. And when the Confederation is together, they too will most likely fill a whole room. This will lead to little fighting, and most likely no clear winner.
  • Where possible, the attendance of the different armies will be measured, and their size will most likely contribute heavily to their Top 10 ranking.
  • This is only the first of a series of planned and, as of yet, unplanned battles between the rival forces. If possible, this war will range on for long. Although, this longevity is threatened by the factors I have mentioned above, which if do become issues, will have to be dealt with in one way or another.

Interviews:

I managed to get an interview from all of the leaders of the main armies involved. :D

Matre10 – ACP Leader

What size are you expecting from your army in this battle for Mammoth?

About 80-90, just like we had recently

Is Mammoth an important server for your army?

One of the most important we have, for sure. For it’s history and it’s incredible use for recruiting.

If you lose this battle, do you plan to re-invade?

Most likely there will be a re-invasion if we lose, I can’t say yet. We’re all going for the bright side knowing and hoping to fight together and succesfully defend Mammoth on Saturday.

Do you think a full battle will be possible due to how popular a server Mammoth is, and the size of the armies involved?

Im positive it will be a good, big battle. Although its a weekend with Rockhopper. That will make Rockhopper very full.

Billy Mays – Nachos Leader

What size are you expecting from your army in this battle for Mammoth?

Anywhere between 35-50

Is Mammoth an important server for your army?

For all armies it can because the re-rise of armies I think ACP is being selfish with it. If we can control Mammoth we are remaking it nuetral.

If you lose this battle, do you plan to re-invade?

Yes.

Do you think a full battle will be possible due to how popular a server Mammoth is, and the size of the armies involved?

Yes, the armies have to go into other rooms and fight.

Iceyfeet1234 – Ice Warriors Leader

What size are you expecting from your army in this battle for Mammoth?

Well, we recruit from Friday-Today, and we obtained 35 troops at our last scheduled battle, but it was scheduled on the same day of the battle, plus we had no european troops because of the time. So I am expecting probably 40+ troops to attend.

Is Mammoth an important server for your army?

Yes, it is good for recruiting on certain days of the week and to have fun unscheduled battles with noob armies that roam throughout the server.

If you lose this battle, do you plan to re-invade?

Probably not, because we have other plans soon.

Do you think a full battle will be possible due to how popular a server Mammoth is, and the size of the armies involved?

The sizes will obviously very different, I doubt non-members will be able to get on, and some members might not be able to get on aswell.

Sklooperis – Golden Troops Leader

What size are you expecting from your army in this battle for Mammoth?

At least 30. We’ve been holding a steady size lately of 30+, and got a few recruits today. If we get below 30, I’ll be extremely dissapointed.

Is Mammoth an important server for your army?

Yes, we don’t have  a big recruiting server like Mammoth, which is important for gaining troops, which seems to be our problem.

If you lose this battle, do you plan to re-invade?

I’m not entirely sure about that yet. I guess we’ll just have to see. I wouldn’t want to.

Do you think a full battle will be possible due to how popular a server Mammoth is, and the size of the armies involved?

I think the battle will be completed this time. If we’re talking about CP Mods getting in the way, I think the bigger the battle the less likely they are to bug us. They don’t want all of us complaining.

COMMENT WITH YOUR OPINION!

~ιaѕgaє56

CPA Central Movie and Club Penguin Conflict

Two sections for all viewers to read!

One: Wars and Club Penguin stopping them

Two: CPA Central Movie!

1.Ok so a change of topic from all that interviewing and all past stuff in Club Penguin in wars lets get down with the real thing because GT, also known as the Golden Troops, had a treaty with Nachos after a big war. There were equal amounts of people at the war. This was taken from the GT site-

Today we invaded Nachos’ server Fjord. We had equal amount of numbers and it was a pretty close war. Everything was going fine until suddenly people were getting kicked out and banned. We logged off and had a discussion with pie. We came up with a peace treaty which comes with the following-

– Nachos and Golden Troops are now at peace.

-Golden Troops get 50% of Aurora

-Golden Troops and Nachos are equal in size to this date

-Golden Troops and Nachos are now allies

Now what happened also was Club Penguin  kicked and banned some troops leading to some problems Club Penguin have had enough of this “War” and want more peaceful stuff according to Club Penguin they want Club Penguin to stay safe and let kids go there and have fun. I think  a new game in  Club Penguin called “Club Penguin warfare” In which throughout the top ten you choose your own side and fight with snowballs and good tactics then at the end of the battle the most tactics and snowballs used wins the game!

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2.Based on Wontons popular story of the CPA saga comes a movie. This movie is gonna be big, and its gonna be created by some of the biggest  Club Penguin YouTubers of all time. I have asked them too work with me on this brand new movie. Now, some things will change  from the story and some things will stay the same. It will not be like an hour and a half movie but it will be long and good(Skloop’s Edit: That’s what she said :lol: ). I can’t tell you who’s editing it, that will be released next month(July). We hope you are getting ready for this movie because its gonna be big!

Extra News and Fact: Almost armies are gonna try to take over ACP’s server, Mammoth. Will they succeed, yes or no?

Here is the info taken from their website: “Along fighting with us will be the major powers of the Nachos, the Ice Warriors, the Golden Troops, the Dorito Army of Club Penguin, the Night Warriors, and many more. We will invade the “sacred” server of Mammoth to prove that the Confederation of Mammoth is a powerful force. We will prove that ACP is not the most powerful army in Club Penguin. Hope you will be there because I sure am gonna come ;) .”

Q: Why do Penguins carry fish in their beaks?

A: Because they haven´t got any pockets.

Have a good day!